Ock ohem ocktei wies barsoom6/13/2023 ![]() We then cut to Dejah Thoris, Red Martian and Princess of Helium, who appears to be speaking English, re-establishing the translation convention used in the introductory scenes. It's a little bit unfortunate, actually, that this whole conversation is subtitled in English, as it would be really neat to try to take the audience along with John's thought process in trying to interpret Tars's four-armed gestures! On one of the other hands, however, Tars is successfully able to teach John the Barsoomian word for "jump"-"sak"-through the use of iconic gestures. Early on, however, there is an excellent example of people with different languages attempting to work out how to communicate when Tars Tarkas introduces himself to John, and falls victim to the "gavagai" problem when he misinterprets "Virginia" as being John's name (when in fact John was trying to explain where he is from). All of this, however, is translated for the audience in subtitles, which sets up some subtle dramatic irony and would be more difficult to do in written media. Interestingly, because we don't encounter those words elsewhere, and we know that Therns are not restricted to living on Mars, it's entirely possible that this is not even Barsoomian!Īfter John is transported to Mars, we hear quite a bit of Barsoomian spoken by the Tharks, which John Carter does not understand. The individual words are never translated, as the structure of the phrase is unimportant-all we need to know is that that whole phrase is how you activate the amulet. Upon encountering what he will later learn is called a "Thern" in a cave, John, and the audience, hears our first example of alien language: the command words to activate a transport amulet, "Ock ohem ocktei wies". The details of their conversation are totally irrelevant, serving only to establish that, yes, there are indeed Apaches in the area as had previously been claimed. The audience, however, will not necessarily know that this is a translation convention right away! The first non-English speech we are exposed to it is not Barsoomian at all, but Apache, spoken by John Carter and a group of Apache warriors as John is trying to escape from the US Army. The film opens on Mars ("Barsoom"), employing a translation convention of rendering Barsooming, spoken by humanoid Red Martians, into English. Paul Frommer, previously hired to create the Na'vi language for James Cameron's Avatar, was commissioned to develop a complete Barsoomian language from the fragments of fictional Barsoomian produced by Burroughs. A conlang, on the other hand, is a real language that just happens to be artificially constructed rather than naturally evolved. Side note: a fictional language is a language which only fully exists in fiction it cannot be learned in the real world. I now there been a lot of hit in this page but really my eye and thought are really only on Rock Ohm here.After my last post on Disney's Conlangs, I was reminded that there is another Disney movie (not a cartoon, but still a Disney movie) that features a conlang: John Carter (of Mars)(as usual, this and other Amazon links are affiliate links, so I get a cut if you buy the stuff).īarsoomian was originally a fictional language used in Edgar Rice Burroughs (better known as the author of Tarzan)'s Barsoomnovels. So taking away the white and leaving the gold, yellow and black is really nice in my eyes. I all was been a more fan of dark colors. Like I dont even think he be all that lighting but it more there for the thunder part of it. You can sort of tell that he more of sound then music. ![]() For the drawing it self I really like it simple do to the pose and the look in his eye. Now with joking a side……WHAT THE HELL OHM!?! DID YOU START AS A ROCK STAR AND THEN WENT TO THE OPERA!I mean really looking at the pages we have seen before of him and this and it like the meme watch who you pick on at school but back wards.All so I think this is the fist time I seen you put lighting with a good guy….at lest I think he a good guy. I sort of laugh at the Boss man with his other hand wrap up now as I can just see him n a few more chapter with both arm all wrap up in case in front of his chest. Ok first thing before I get into the meat of the page. ![]()
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